Using Firefox, HttpWatch and Internet Explorer on Vista 64-bit

calendarMay 9, 2009 in Automation , C# , Firefox , HttpWatch , Internet Explorer , Javascript

The 64-bit version of Windows Vista is becoming increasing popular due to its ability to access more than 4 GB of physical memory. To an ordinary Windows user, there are few noticeable differences from the 32-bit version because it can run both 32-bit and 64-bit programs.

In this post we wanted to answer some of the questions you may have about Windows Vista 64-bit and the effect it has on the use of Firefox, HttpWatch and Internet Explorer (IE).

How can I tell if a program is running in 32-bit or 64-bit mode?

The Task Manager on Vista 64-bit shows 32-bit tasks with a ‘*32′ after the process name. If there’s no ‘*32′ after the name then it is running in 64-bit mode. This screen shot shows a 32-bit process called page_check running on Vista 64-bit:

32-bit Program Running on Vista 64-bit

Why does IE run in 32-bit mode by default on Vista 64-bit?

Clicking on the launch bar IE icon in Vista 64-bit starts the 32-bit version of IE:

32-bit version of IE on Vista 64-bit

A 64-bit version of IE is available but you have to explicitly select it from the Start menu:

64-bit version of IE

Microsoft has done this because the 64-bit version of IE can only load 64-bit browser extensions and most  extensions, such as the Adobe Flash player, are only available in 32-bit.

Here’s what Adobe says about 64-bit support:

Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser. However, you can run Flash Player in a 32-bit browser running on a 64-bit operating system.


Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We expect to provide native support for 64-bit platforms in an upcoming release of Flash Player following Flash Player 10.

Without the Flash player, you can’t use sites like YouTube or BBC iPlayer. That’s a non-starter for many web users and the reason why 32-bit IE is the default on Vista 64-bit.

Microsoft is also putting off 64-bit support in Silverlight until other 64-bit extensions are available:

Right now our plan is to run SL in 32-bit mode (and not have a 64-bit native version). This is mostly because other browser plug-ins (and most browsers) don’t support 64-bit yet. We are looking at adding native 64-bit support in the future though.

Can I run Firefox in 64-bit mode on Vista 64?

There’s currently no official build of Firefox for 64-bit Windows as stated in a Mozilla support forum:

There are no releases or nightly builds of 64 bit Firefox for Windows from Mozilla as the earliest release to likely have 64-bit versions is Firefox 4.0. The only option you have is either roll your own or use a third-party build.

There’s little motivation for the browser vendors to go 64-bit because unlike other applications, such as memory hungry video editors or database servers, web browsers will not see significant performance benefits in 64-bit mode and there is also the problem with the lack of 64-bit extensions.

Can I use HttpWatch on Vista 64-bit?

Yes, you can use HttpWatch on Vista 64-bit but it is currently only available in 32-bit. This means that the HttpWatch plug-in can only be used in the 32-bit edition of IE. We will provide 64-bit plug-ins when Adobe, Microsoft and Mozilla provide significant 64-bit support.

The automation interface can be used from 64-bit programs without making any changes so as long as you have HttpWatch version 6.1.32 or later.

In some cases, such as accessing a .hwl file opened with the OpenLog method, you may see reduced performance in a 64-bit program. This is because the 64-bit API support in HttpWatch uses a separate WIN32 process rather than directly loading the API. To avoid this issue make sure that your client program runs 32-bit (see below).

Can I use the HttpWatch version 5.x automation on Vista 64-bit?

This will work, but you will need to ensure that your program runs in 32-bit mode. Otherwise, you will see this error when you attempt to create an instance of the HttpWatch controller object:

Unhandled Exception: System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x80040154): Retrieving
the COM class factory for component with CLSID {C4CEDB78-2B64-4703-99BE-A037A849D703}
failed due to the following error: 80040154.

If you’re seeing this error with HttpWatch version 6 make sure that you’ve installed version 6.1.32 or later.

How can I get my HttpWatch automation program to run 32-bit?

As mentioned above, you will need to ensure that a program using the HttpWatch automation API runs in 32-bit mode if:

  • You are using HttpWatch version 5.x
  • You want to improve data access performance on log files that are opened using the OpenLog method.

.Net projects (e.g. C# or VB.Net) have a default configuration setting of ‘Any CPU’. This causes them to automatically run as a  64-bit process on Vista 64-bit. To force them to always run 32-bit you’ll need to change this setting to ‘x86′ in Visual Studio:

x86build

Script based programs, such as Javascript or VBScript, that use the Windows Scripting Host will normally run in 64-bit on Vista 64-bit because cscript.exe and wscript.exe are  64-bit programs. You can force the use of 32-bit by using the script programs that are installed in the Windows\SysWow64 directory:

32bitwsh

The sample automation code that is installed with HttpWatch version 6.1.32 or later, uses the ‘x86’ setting  in C# projects and includes instructions on how to run the Javascript samples in 32-bit mode.

HttpWatch Supports Firefox 3.5 Beta 4

calendarApril 29, 2009 in Firefox , HttpWatch

HttpWatch version 6.1.30 now supports Firefox 3.5 Beta 4 as well as public releases of Firefox 2.0 and 3.0.Mozilla Firefox

You can read more about Firefox 3.5 Beta 4 in the Mozilla release notes and a full list of changes to HttpWatch is available on the Version History page and RSS Feed.

Fixing the IE 8 warning – ‘Do you want to view only the webpage content that was delivered securely?’

calendarApril 23, 2009 in HTTPS , Internet Explorer

In a previous blog post, we talked about the problem of using HTTP based resources, such as images, on a secure HTTPS page. Internet Explorer interrupts the download and displays a confirmation dialog whenever it detects the use of mixed content on a secure page.

In IE 7 and ealier, this dialog would cause annoyance to users but generally didn’t cause any other significant problems. This was because it was worded in such a way that most users would click on the Yes button and allow non-secure content to be downloaded.

However, the wording in the IE 8 version of this dialog has changed:

IE8 Security Warning

To download the content a user would now have to click on the No button. As we know, most people using the web only scan text and avoid reading it if at all possible! They will usually go for the Yes button if there is not an OK button.

Some sites are going to find that their secure pages in IE 8 have the following problems:

  • Any non-secure HTTP image beacons used for analytics data gathering will often be ignored
  • The page may not display or even work correctly if it relies on non-secure images, CSS or Javascript

Therefore, avoiding mixed content on HTTPS pages is even more important now that IE 8 has been released. It often becomes an issue when using third party services such as analytics or Content Delivery Networks (CDN). For example, we avoided the use of Google hosted Ajax libraries on our site until Google added HTTPS support.

As mention in the previous blog post, an IE user you can disable this warning by:

  1. Going  to Tools->Internet Options->Security
  2. Select the Security tab
  3. Click on the Internet zone icon at the top of the tab page
  4. Click the Custom Level button
  5. In the Miscellaneous section change Display mixed content to Enable
  6. Repeat steps 1 – 5 for the Local intranet and Trusted sites zones

However, if you are developing a web site you can’t expect your visitors to do this. It is better to fix the cause of the problem so that the warning is not displayed by default in IE 8. The only way to do this warning is to ensure that your HTTPS pages only access embedded resources using the HTTPS protocol. You can do this by following these steps:

  1. Use a sniffer like HttpWatch that supports HTTPS and shows files being read from the browser cache. The free Basic Edition is sufficient for this because you only need to see the URLs being accessed.
  2. Access the page causing the problem and click No when you see the security warning dialog.
  3. Any HTTP resources shown  in the HttpWatch window are the source of the problem; even if they loaded directly from the browser cache and didn’t cause a network round trip:Mixed Content in HttpWatch
  4. If you don’t initially see any HTTP based resources, try refreshing the page because a non-secure image may have been retrieved from the IE or Firefox image cache

EDIT #1: If you are a web developer trying to track down why your page causes this warning please also take a look  at http://blog.httpwatch.com/2009/09/17/even-more-problems-with-the-ie-8-mixed-content-warning/ where we cover some javascript snippets that can also trigger this warning. The comments section of both of these posts also contain useful information where people have found and solved related issues.

EDIT #2: Updated instructions to apply the change to all network zones

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